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Autor:  vld [ 24.Září 2007 - 7:09 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Neumo-2.13.6

Novy image, ktery snad potesi majitele IP422 (diamant :D )

viz. Pro stahnuti - download


I: new feature or improvement
B: bug fix
N: Note

Tuner support
I: Relook now supports new tuner introduced in recent models.

Mpeg program stream playback
I: Relook can now play back recordings in mpeg program stream format
(usually stored in files with .mpg extension). Simply copy the files
to /var/media/video. Trick play (fast forward, rewind, ...) is
currently not implemented.

Power on/off
I: Improved power button functionality. The button now switches
between two states, which have the meaning ON="user wants to watch
live" and OFF="user does not want to watch live". This is different
from the previous meaning "user wants to turn on/off relook".

The difference becomes important when a recording is in
progress. In the old code, pressing the power button would pop up
the question if the user would like to cancel the recording. In the
new code, this question is not asked, the recording is continued,
but picture output through scart and RF is disabled. Relook will
switch off AFTER the recording, unless the user presses the power
button once more. In this case, picture output on scart and RF is
re-enabled and relook will NOT switch off after recording.

I: The preceding explanation actually applies to the case where the
recording started when the user was already watching some program,
i.e., after the user pressed the power button.

In case a recording starts when relook is off (in cold or warm
sleep), relook will switch in but no picture will be shown through
the scart and RF outputs, until the user presses the power button.

If the the user state is ON, relook will never switch off when a
recording ends.

N: The easiest way to understand what will happen when pressing the
power button is to pretend that relook contains two devices: a TV tuner,
which is controlled by the power button and a recorder, which is
controlled by a timer. The power button switches the TV tuner on
or off. Relook is turned on when either the recorder or the TV
tuner needs to be on. It is turned off when both the TV tuner and the
recorder are off.

N: Picture output though scart and RF is temporarily turned on during
cold boot. This is a limitation of the current code.

User preferences
I: Previously, the relook code had three different methods for storing
user options leading to complicated and error-prone code. Almost
all user settings are now stored in the table "options" in the
database, except those that are needed in /bin/init, which are
stored in the filesystem.

N: Because of the new options-code, many existing user settings will be
lost when upgrading to neumoteam 2.13.6. Therefore, users should
carefully check all settings in the menus, because many options
will be set to their default value after upgrade.

N: Because of the new option codes, plugins accessing old options
will cease to function. Some minor code changes and recompilation
are needed to make them function again. The standard plugins
(ts_rec, mp3, sudoku, ...) and some others (spectrum analyzer)
have been fixed.

Users should not expect plugins compiled for other images or other
neumoteam versions to work on neumoteam 2.13.6. Some combinations will
work, but not all. This is nothing new: plugins have always been
specific to the image for which they are compiled, but this time
more plugins are affected.

N: Your version of pc-editor must be recent enough to support the
database version 1.20.

B: 12/24 hours option not stored correctly.

Language selection
I: New language preference and audio switching code. Instead of
selecting one default audio language, the user can now enter a list
of up to 7 preferred languages. The first language will be
selected if it is available, otherwise the second and so on. In
addition to the usual languages, a number of special languages are
available: "German 2" is the second German language choice on
premiere, which is typically English in reality. "Secondary" is the
second language on some digital+ channels. The special languages are
needed because the providers do not transmit the correct languages.

I: The new "prefer Dolby AC3" option is interpreted as follows: if it
is set to "No" all AC3 streams will be ignored. If set to "Yes",
AC3 audio will be used, except if another non-AC3 audio language
with higher preference is available.

N: The audio language preference also applies to teletext and
subtitles, but due to lack of suitable test cases, it has not been

N: The current audio language is recomputed after each channel change
or when the transmitted PMT-table changes. After a PMT-change it
can take up to 30s before the language switch occurs.

B: Incorrect audio switching when audio pids change.

N: Pixellation is still not completely fixed. One remaining source of
pixellation is in the remuxer. In 2.13.5 this was minimised by
increasing the clock speed of the on-board FPGA. As a result some
hardware cams cease to function correctly. Also, the solution does
not eliminate all data corruption.

I: The data corruption is usually triggered by the epg code switching to
certain transponders (but is not cause by the epg code!) and
registering SI-tables on those transponders. The time during which
SI-tables are registered is now minimized, so that the possibility
of pixellation is limited.

Start up and shutdown
I: Picture on scart and RF is now switched off much sooner after
the user presses the power button. The user can watch regular tv,
while relook is still shutting down.

B: Sporadic kernel crash after warm boot.

B: /bin/relook crashes on exit. As a result, all kinds of strange
things could happen (such as entering a cold shutdown instead of a
warm shutdown, starting a needless factory reset, ...

I: Epg code now exits gracefully at shutdown, reducing the likelihood
of database corruption.

B: Database revision checking scripts fail in the case of a
missing database: when /var/data/dbepg.dat is missing the upgrade
script creates an empty dbepg.dat rather than copying a clean
one. Next it starts the database upgrade script, which fails
because of the empty database. The same problem occurs for a
missing db.dat/

B: Relook crashes when an empty /var/data/db.dat is installed.

B: Shut down in menu->usb-mode->pc-editor makes relook crash

Stability fixes
B: Relook crashes after pressing the info button twice in file list
management screen.

B: Relook crashes after running for many hours.

B: Upgrade to sqlite3.4.1 to fix a database corruption bug.

I: Implemented code to suspend epg parsing when memory gets too full.

B: Fix epg code becomes inactive for a long time if transponder
doesn't transmit tdt table.

B: Memory leak in epg code.

B: Fixed minor memory leak in new mhwepg2 code.

I: Improved enforcement of memory limits in dvbepg code.

B: Relook crashes while exiting automatic channel search.

B: Relook crashes in channel search.

B: Memory leaks in channel epg.

B: Various memory leaks.

Speed and resource usage improvements
I: Improved channel changing speed. Channel changing was slowed down
by saving history information, which can take a very long time when
the database is locked for some reason. Other speed improvements have
been made as well.

I: Improved performance of Channel List with EPG Program Name display.

I: Faster channel epg by avoiding duplicate database look-ups and by
retrieving only the data that can fit on the screen.

I: Much faster epg code due to improved database calls (50-75% faster)
and by reducing deliberate delays in the epg write code. The size
of the epg write queue has also been decreased which should lower
memory fragmentation.

Other bug fixes and improvements
I: The option "Use free tuner if scrambled" has been replaced by
"Dual descrambling." If the option is set to "Yes" relook will
allow recording/watching two encrypted channels. Otherwise, when a
user is watching a scrambled channel and a recording would start on
another scrambled channel, relook will ask to tune the live tuner
to the channel which is to be recorded.

This option is needed for some CAMs which can only descramble a
single channel.

B: When "Use free tuner if scrambled" is "NO" (i.e., when "Dual
Descrambling"="YES") relook sometimes asks to switch the live tuner
to the channel to be recorded, thus ignoring the user setting.

B: In /bin/init the code that converts the file system from ext2 to
ext3 and the code that forces a full file system check was
accidentally disabled.

B: The "record end offset: was ignored when recording from live mode.

B: Relook failed to switch to regional programming.

B: Wrong time in epg display and on front panel after changing
the timezone from within relook GUI.

I: A new option "Banner auto display" controls whether or not the live
banner appears on screen after a channel change (or when the
broadcast PMT changes). This option does NOT affect banner display
when pressing trick play keys (e.g., fast forward) because visual
feedback is essential for features like fast forward.

B: The "stop recording" dialog shows wrong program name.

B: The svn revision number in "compile info" was wrong: it showed the
version of the "relook_src" directory, but now it show the version
of the most recent source file in that directory.

B: A newly selected banner type only became active after reboot.

B: The epg code crashed during certain operations, such as when running
plugins. The real fix is to stop the epg code altogether in these cases,
but until that is implemented, a workaround has now been
implemented that should prevent all or some of the crashes.

B: Cosmetic fixes in channel epg: long channel names overlapped with the
date-time field. Event names sometimes extend into the thumb nail window.

Notes for developers
N: In the database, the audio language preference is stored as a
string of the form "eng;ger;ger1;fre". A number behind the
language is used to refer to a specific audio channel if there is
more than one channel with the given language. For instance the
first German audio stream on premiere is "ger". The second "German"
stream is "ger1" and so on.

N: Before 2.13.6, options were stored in three database tables:
UserOption, options, optionInfo. The code for saving/loading the
options was duplicated all over the place; it dealt poorly with
database inconsistencies or non-existing options, creating the
potential for crashes.

The new option system stores (almost) all options in the table
"options" as two strings: a name of a variable and its value. There
are four different types of options: INT, STRING, CHOICE and
FSFLAG. The options are defined in dbmgr/db_options.in, which is
converted by a script to include/db_options_generated.h.

INT(i1,3) means: i1 is an integer, with default value 3
STRING(str1,"zorro"): str1 is string with default value "zorro"
CHOICE(c1,yes,yes,no): c1 is an integer which can assume the values
key_yes and key_no. The default value is key_yes (2nd argument).
FSFLAG(hdd_check,"/var/.chfs",off): the hdd_check option is on if
the file /var/.chfs exists. Otherwise it is off.

In c-code, db_options.h should be included. This will define
keys (e.g., key_yes and key_no) as numeric constants. All options
are retrieved from the database using the function db_option_init.
Individual options can be stored in or retrieved from the database
using options_set and option_get:
-to save an option to the database, use option_set(db,&options.str1)
-to load an option from the database, use option_get(db,&options.str1)

The value of an option can be accessed or changed by
reading/setting a variable like options.c1.val. The name of an
option can be found using a call like key_name(options.c1.val). In
the case of a CHOICE option, there are also facilities for
retrieving the allowed values for the option as a vector of integers.

In case the options table in the database contains variable names which are
not declared in db_options.in, they are simply ignored. Such values
are currently used to lock favorite lists.

Autor:  Diamant [ 24.Září 2007 - 9:28 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Veľmi dobrá správa, presne takýto image som potreboval!!!

Nový feature ON/OFF tlačidla teoreticky vyzerá byť rozumnou voľbou, mne stále vadilo, že sa box po nahrávke vypne. Už to tam tlačím, tak sa hneď uvidí, či je to naozaj tak.

Zobrazovanie 12/24 hodinového formátu času skutočne nebolo u 2.13.5 celkom OK. Tak uvidíme, ako to napravili.

Trochu zamrzí DB 1.20, ale snáď pre nás slon niečo pripraví.


Takže prvé dojmy:

Natlačenie image bezproblémové, iba treba niekoľko krát stlačiť OK, hoci na obrazovke nevidno nič. Potom na mňa vybafla obrazovka s tými novými nastaveniami jazykov, je do fajn, že si človek nastaví preferované jazyky.

Naastavil som IP a nahral tam svoju DB 1.19, po reštarte ju bezproblematicky skonvertovalo na 1.20.

Image, rovnako ako 2.13.5 neobsahuje žiadne emus, preto ich treba doplniť. Spojazdniť to ide, ale len priamou voľbou Menu+X. Emud plugin sa nedá otvoriť.

Potešil však nový OSD bannera, ktorý vo Full zobrazuje už aj dátový tok! Akurát aj 2x info z EPG, nerozumiem prečo?

Autor:  zahii [ 24.Září 2007 - 11:57 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

2.13.5 již obsahoval v plném panelu datový tok. I dva řádky EPG byly již ve 2.13.5. První řádek ukazuje aktuální program a druhý zobrazuje následující (šipka doprava, doleva). Taky dnes vyzkoušim :)

Autor:  zahii [ 24.Září 2007 - 20:29 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Image jsem nahrál v pohodě, oskenoval programy. Nejde mi nejak rozchodit emu (cccam). Emu plugin opravdu nefunguje, ale i jiné. Takže přes telnet jsem přes \var\data\script2\user16.sh nainstaloval cccam. Zkoušel jsem ho pustit přes MENU+1, ale taky nic. Takže zase telenet \var\data\scripts\menu1.sh. Nebyl by nějaký návod. Děkuji. Budu zkoušet dál.

relook400s:/var/data/scripts# sh menu1.sh
: not foundenu1.sh: 2: /var/scripts/menu6.sh
: Permission denied 4: cannot create /dev/commander
menu1.sh: menu1.sh: 5: /var/emu/newcs: not found
: not foundenu1.sh: 5:
BusyBox v1.2.2 (2007.09.23-07:29+0000) multi-call binary

Usage: sleep N

Pause for N seconds.

menu1.sh: menu1.sh: 7: /var/emu/capmtserver: not found
: not foundenu1.sh: 7:
BusyBox v1.2.2 (2007.09.23-07:29+0000) multi-call binary

Usage: sleep N

Pause for N seconds.

: not foundenu1.sh: 9:
BusyBox v1.2.2 (2007.09.23-07:29+0000) multi-call binary

Usage: sleep N

Pause for N seconds.

: not foundenu1.sh: 11:
: Permission denied 12: cannot create /dev/commander
BusyBox v1.2.2 (2007.09.23-07:29+0000) multi-call binary

Usage: sleep N

Pause for N seconds.

: not foundenu1.sh: 16:

Autor:  revis [ 24.Září 2007 - 21:48 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

zatial co vidim , nemas campserver,aj ked script obsahuje rutinu na spustenie a asi ti nieco chyba aj vo /var/etc/ - aspon konfiguracne subory pre cccam. akurat to instalujem, takze dam vediet neskor. Ja osobne cccam nejak nemusim - tie ostatne verzie CCcamu su nie moc naklonene mojmu boxu ...

Autor:  revis [ 24.Září 2007 - 22:28 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Menu4 - cccam +newcs+camptserver
Implicitne sa mgcamd a newcs spusta a to ide hned.
Mne zas spustilo camptserver a newcs a nie cccam. vo /var/etc/cccam.cfg je, idem pozriet, preco nefrci cccam. Bavime sa dufam o slonovom -emu.zip subore. ten som pouzil - ved,ktory aj iny, ze ? :) Prepinanie - zatial je to OK- teda tak rychle ak som zvyknuty. Ja nebezim preteky mieru - takze nic extra rychle nepotrebujem,len nech reaguje normalne. Toto zatial ano. Vsetko mi to hodilo na HDD- presne ako si predstavujem. To je proste klasicka slonova praca - cize musi to frcat. Mam problem dostat sa do menu emu plugin- musim cez MENU a cislo na DO spustat - som zvyknuty a poradie poznam, zatial mi to neva. Poskusam, snad aj doladim a uvidim.
.......a uz tam mam aj CCcam - stacilo v cccam.cfg zrusit DVB-API - mal som 1 -tak som to zakomentoval a je to OK.
Nuz - co dodat - zatial sa mi to asi aj pozdava. Vyskusam este nahravanie.

Autor:  zahii [ 24.Září 2007 - 23:13 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

emu.zip jsem nepoužil. použil jsem scripty k instalaci cccam co tam byly originální. jinak tam pak je cccam na menu+1. takhle v tom originále menu+X nefunguje ani jeden. Ani např. menu+6 kill all. Funguje to, když překopíruju scripts z /var/data do /var. Stále mi ale CCcam neběží. Kde najdu emu.zip? nasel jsem jen emu.rar, ale ten cccam neobsahuje.

Autor:  Diamant [ 25.Září 2007 - 8:45 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

To som nevedel, že dátový tok bol už aj v N 2.13.5.

Toto som písal aj do susedného vlákna, ale tu je to asi viac na mieste. N 2.13.5 prepína programy v priemere za 2,5-3,0 s (prepínal som programy ako pako a stále stopoval). N 2.13.6 prepína tak okolo 2,0s (niekedy pod, inokeda aj tesne nad), takže isté zrýchlenie tu je, je merateľné, ale pocitovo mi to nevadilo ani u 2.13.5, tak som si to bežne nevšimol, len teraz pri tom stopovaní som to overil.

Ohľadom emu - ja používam mgcamd + newcs a to ide v pohode. Ako server, tak aj klient.

Autor:  revis [ 25.Září 2007 - 8:55 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

zde: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2652

Autor:  Diamant [ 25.Září 2007 - 10:21 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Najlepšie vidno rozdiel v rýchlosti pokiaľ sú obidva boxy pri sebe a na jednom je ešte 2.13.5 a na druhom 2.13.6. Prepíána sa za rovnakého preogramu na jednom aj na druhom a prepína sa jedným DO. Takto je rozdiel v rýchlosti viditeľný v prospech 2.13.6.

Vypínanie 2.13.6 je výrazne rýchlejšie. Zapínanie je tak na rovnako. Vždy vypnutie warm.

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 11:58 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

revis napsal:

večer vyzkoušim

Autor:  vld [ 25.Září 2007 - 13:31 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

jeste jeden manual na emulatory vytvorily na denktenk

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 20:49 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Tak jsem zkoušel vše možné, ale CCcam mi nejde. Nevadí, rozchodil jsme vše potřebné pomocí Mgcamd.
Ještě jeden dotaz. Zobrazují se vůbec v této verzi právě běžící programy (EPG) v seznamu programů?

Autor:  revis [ 25.Září 2007 - 20:56 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

zahii napsal:
Tak jsem zkoušel vše možné, ale CCcam mi nejde. Nevadí, rozchodil jsme vše potřebné pomocí Mgcamd.
Ještě jeden dotaz. Zobrazují se vůbec v této verzi právě běžící programy (EPG) v seznamu programů?

Povedal by som,ze ani moc nie. :) Celkovo to ma nejake divne epg. Skusal si epg tlacitko?

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 21:34 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

EPG tlačítko v pohodě. 1. stisk EPG pro aktuální program, 2. stisk tabulka pro všechny programy. EPG mi jde na UPC Direct, ale zatím nejde na CSlinku (ČT, Prima).
Když přepínám programy (speciálně mezi CSLink a UPC) mi občas nenaskočí obraz. Řekl bych, že žádné super vylepšení v této verzi nevidim :(

Autor:  revis [ 25.Září 2007 - 22:03 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

zahii napsal:
EPG tlačítko v pohodě. 1. stisk EPG pro aktuální program, 2. stisk tabulka pro všechny programy. EPG mi jde na UPC Direct, ale zatím nejde na CSlinku (ČT, Prima).
Když přepínám programy (speciálně mezi CSLink a UPC) mi občas nenaskočí obraz. Řekl bych, že žádné super vylepšení v této verzi nevidim :(

presne na cz link nieje podpora pre epg. UPC nemam naladene - ide tam aj diakritika spravne?

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 22:12 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

Diakritika v pohodě. Akorát teď jsem z toho blázen. Najednou mi jde EPG na Nově na CSLinku. Nechápu. ČT stále jen na UPC

Autor:  revis [ 25.Září 2007 - 22:25 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

zahii napsal:
Diakritika v pohodě. Akorát teď jsem z toho blázen. Najednou mi jde EPG na Nově na CSLinku. Nechápu. ČT stále jen na UPC

Necuduj sa, mne islo vcera EPG na digi (len na jednom programe!) a dnes uz nic. Ale nejdem to blizsie skumat, mam tu rozpracovane nejake fw, tak sem si vlastne vzdy len odskocim oddychnut aby som z toho nezosalel.
Zda sa mi to nejake nedokoncene - 2.13.6. ze? Impozantna volba jazykov hned v uvode (som myslel, ze to je chybne vytvorena tabulka :D :D ) a dalej nezelane prekvapenia. Rychlost ale opravili.

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 22:33 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

EPG jde opravdu špatně. Teď zjišťuju, že na spoustě programů (UPC) mám v popisu programu občas asi maďarštinu nebo co. Zobrazím EPG k danému kanálu a jeden pořad je v češtině, druhý v maďarštině. Hrůza :( . Rychlost přepínání je opravdu lepší :good:

Autor:  zahii [ 25.Září 2007 - 23:33 ]
Předmět příspěvku:  Re: Neumo-2.13.6

EPG mám už i na cslinku. Chce to delší chvíli počkat. Jen kdyby se se EPG zobrazovalo i v seznamu programů.
Už jsem našel i toto: Neumo settings(general) - program name in CH-list

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